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0. PostPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 1:25 pm    Post subject: DDRFreak Dictionary modifications Reply with quote

Okay, I've been wanting to make this thread for a while, because I think a lot of improvements could be made on the dictionary. One of the main things I think would be helpful is to have more abbreviations, because that is what I had the most trouble recognizing when I first started. So, I was hoping we could have people make suggestions on what to add. I'll start off with the suggestions from maxer'AA's thread in DDR Chit-chat. (I'm not going to post things that are already in the dictionary, however there are some that I think could use abbreviations)

Noncombo Steps - Steps that stop a combo (Good, Boo, Miss)
Oni-pass - Getting less than 4 noncombo steps (or N.G.'s) on a song, allowing you to pass that song in an Oni
S6R - Using Shuffle, Sudden, Solo, and a speed modifier together when playing a song
6 option - Also known as 6-mod, this is the practice of combining 6 different modifiers together on one song. Devil0n's personal favorite, and a good example: 1.5 Boost Hidden Shuffle Flat Reverse
Full Combo (FC) - Getting the biggest combo possible in a song, therefore hitting every step with either a Great or a Perfect rating
Options - Settings that change the stepchart to the song or change the way the arrows appear (this isn't a very good definition, if someone could come up with a better one I will be very happy)
Modifiers (Mods) - Another name for options
CSFIL - Can't Stop Falling in Love
CSFIL:SM - Can't Stop Falling in Love: Speed Mix
EOTC - End of the Century
EE - Exotic Ethnic
HV:AM - Healing Vision: Angelic Mix
LOM - Legend of Max
PS - Paranoia Survivor
PSM - Paranoia Survivor Max
PSMO - Paranoia Survivor Max on Challenge Mode. The hardest DDR song.
R&P - Rhythm and Police
Jackhammer Steps - A step pattern where one arrow must be hit repeatedly
Machine Gun Steps - A step pattern with two rapidly alternating arrows
Foot Rating - A measurement for the difficulty of a song, ranging from 1 (very easy) to 10 (very very hard) and flashing 10 (very very very hard)
# Footer - Another term for "Foot Rating"

Anything else anyone can think of? I'll add it up here. I hope that these can be implemented at some point.
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1. PostPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 1:49 pm    Post subject: Re: DDRFreak Dictionary modifications Reply with quote

eyebrowsoffire wrote:
S6R - Using Shuffle, Sudden, Solo, and a speed modifier together when playing a song


There a problem with that because you are assuming that Shuffle, Sudden, Solo and Speed are 4 S's, with the other 2 coming from SSR (maniac mode on 3rd mix). However, SSR is widely known as maniac Flat (or heavy Flat). You could technically do the full S6R, as you describe it, with 2 players and the second player putting Solo on for you, but it's highly impractical.
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2. PostPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 1:55 pm    Post subject: Re: DDRFreak Dictionary modifications Reply with quote

eyebrowsoffire wrote:
Blue flag - Getting all Perfects and one Good on a song
Pink (purple) flag - Getting all Perfects and one Boo on a song
Red flag - Getting all Perfects and one Miss on a song
Green flag - Getting all Perfects on a song, but breaking one freeze arrow, therefore (On Extreme) not allowing you to AAA it.
True Black flag - Getting all Perfects until you get one Great on the last step of the song
White flag - Getting a Great on the first step of a song, then getting all the rest of the steps Perfect.
We shut down this particular idea last time. Black-flag, sure, but I'm not terribly fond of having puce flags and beige flags and such. I mean, I don't think many of these definitions (aside from black flag) are consistently used or agreed on. Plus, it sounds kinda silly if you ask me.
eyebrowsofffire wrote:
Full Combo (FC) - Getting the biggest combo possible in a song, therefore hitting every step with either a Great or a Perfect rating
We don't have this one in there already? Wow. I need to fix that.
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Options - Settings that change the stepchart to the song or change the way the arrows appear (this isn't a very good definition, if someone could come up with a better one I will be very happy)
Uh...do we really need the word "options" in the dictionary? I think everyone knows what the word means...
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Modifiers (Mods) - Another name for options
That one I'll go for.
eyebrowsoffire wrote:
Lots of song abbreviations
I don't think we really need those. I know I use acronyms a lot, but I don't think anyone seriously goes to the dictionary to look up CSFIL. Plus, I'd kinda like to discourage overuse of acronyms. Acronym-heavy posts are kinda hard to read and just make things user-unfriendly, IMHO.
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3. PostPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I just posted a bunch that were posted from another thread. I think some of the more common song abbreviations could be useful, but EOTC and EE, that's a little obscure. I see a lot of threads of people saying "whats PSMO?" so I think that a couple of the most often used ones would be good to keep. I think that there should be a lot more abbreviations though, like next to "Black Flag" there should be "(BF)". I remember being so confused at all the abbreviations when I first started, and adding a little thing in parentheses won't take that much space up, so I think it's a good idea.

As for the S6R thing, don't ask me. Even S4R confuses me, I don't even use that terminology at all.
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4. PostPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eyebrowsoffire wrote:
Even S4R confuses me, I don't even use that terminology at all.


Sudden Shuffle SSR, which is four S's and an R. Like I said before SSR means maniac flat. So S4R means you are playing a heavy song with Sudden Shuffle and Flat as your modifiers.
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5. PostPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

remember, he got that stuff from my thread, so dont be yelling at him.
anyway, i think the only almost OFFICAL abbrev. is PSMO. ive seen that alot.
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6. PostPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree that abbrieviations don't need to be included in the DDR Dictionary on the site as not everyone uses those terms, and most people will write up the whole entire song name if they're cool. E10.gif

Plus it may confuse people, especially the n00bs, but I see that the intention was quite good really as some people may just create threads in DDR Chit-Chat not knowing and asking people about this kind of thing.

I propose the terms "jack hammer" to be put in to the DDR Dictionary though; a lot of people seem to be using those terms when describing the steps to songs. I see that this makes sense as we have things like gallops in the DDRFreak Dictionary.
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7. PostPosted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

max'erAA wrote:

anyway, i think the only almost OFFICAL abbrev. is PSMO. ive seen that alot.


If it was an "official" abbriviation, it would be used in the game.
Therefore, it's not official.
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guysitsRez wrote:
max'erAA wrote:

anyway, i think the only almost OFFICAL abbrev. is PSMO. ive seen that alot.


If it was an "official" abbriviation, it would be used in the game.
Therefore, it's not official.

i said ALMOST offical E15.gif
which would make in "unoffical" biggrin.gif
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9. PostPosted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

St00pidBaka // BluR wrote:
I agree that abbrieviations don't need to be included in the DDR Dictionary on the site as not everyone uses those terms, and most people will write up the whole entire song name if they're cool. E10.gif

But the sad truth is, a lot of people on these forums are not cool.
St00pidBaka // BluR wrote:
something about jackhammer steps

That's a good one. Added.
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St00pidBaka // BluR wrote:
something about jackhammer steps

That's a good one. Added.[/quote]
gallops? is that in there? or are those jackhammer steps?
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11. PostPosted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

by jackhammer steps i assume he means machine guns
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12. PostPosted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Empress Bouncy Tits wrote:
by jackhammer steps i assume he means machine guns
And this my friends is why the Dictionary isn't always accurate.
(i.e. everybody has their own variations for the same thing).
Not that it's impossible for us to have an 'a.k.a.' bit at the end of each definition.
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13. PostPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 1:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

max'erAA wrote:
gallops? is that in there? or are those jackhammer steps?

Gallops are already in the dictionary. Jackhammers are like up.gifup.gifup.gifup.gifup.gifup.gifup.gifup.gif like in CSFIL:SM. Gallops have more to do with rhythm. The best way to think of gallops is like, think quarter notes, and then add a 16th note directly before each step (this isn't the only variation, you could have them be after each step, or you could have syncopated 1/4 notes instead). You see gallops in Tsugaru, In the Navy, and Cowgirl just to name a few.
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14. PostPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 3:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I thought jackhammers were when you have to hit the repeated step over and over again - best examplified in Can't Stop Falling In Love (Speed Mix) Heavy/Maniac.

Machine Gun Steps -V Oni is a good example.

[edit] You do know that jackhammers and machine gun steps are supposedly different entries in the dictionary as they're different terms with different meanings right? Oh and what the flying fuck is S6R? What the shit!
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VxJasonxV wrote:
Empress Bouncy Tits wrote:
by jackhammer steps i assume he means machine guns
And this my friends is why the Dictionary isn't always accurate.
(i.e. everybody has their own variations for the same thing).
Not that it's impossible for us to have an 'a.k.a.' bit at the end of each definition.


i could of sworn that machine guns were in the dictionary



to stoo[id baka i can deal with your def of both then
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St00pidBaka // BluR wrote:
Yeah, I thought jackhammers were when you have to hit the repeated step over and over again - best examplified in Can't Stop Falling In Love (Speed Mix) Heavy/Maniac.

Machine Gun Steps -V Oni is a good example.

[edit] You do know that jackhammers and machine gun steps are supposedly different entries in the dictionary as they're different terms with different meanings right? Oh and what the flying fuck is S6R? What the shit!

Oh, I get it now. So does anyone have a good definition for Machine Gun steps then?
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This would be how I would describe it, but it may not be "correct" or accurate as other people may dispute it as it's not really great or anything.

Machine Gun Steps - A repeating stream of 1/16 notes and sometimes 1/32 notes. They usually go from one arrow to the next in a repeated fast action during a song. Machine gun steps are best examplified in V Oni and My Sweet Darlin' on Heavy.
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I thought machine gun was the same as Jackhammer O_o. Oops.
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VxJasonxV wrote:
I thought machine gun was the same as Jackhammer O_o. Oops.
Don't mind me E10.gif.

Same here, I just learned that they are different.

St00pidbaka, I think the definition has to be a bit clearer than that though, "they go from one arrow to the next" doesn't say a whole lot. Maybe like "A stream that alternates rapidly between two arrows." Is that right? I'm just learning this term myself, so correct me if I'm wrong. I don't think I should say "a stream of 16ths" or something because I think these can be 12th notes, 24th notes, 32nd notes, or even 8th notes.
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