DDR Freak really to cover ITG

Cutriss · Staff Member Joined: 24 Jan 2002

What change? DDR Freak is still DDR Freak - there's just more of it now.

Nothing we've done has changed the DDR content at all.
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Arctic Wolves · Trick Member Joined: 16 Dec 2004 Location: Canada

DDRFreak could cover world politics and DDR and still be DDRFreak because it's still covering DDR. Besides, hasn't the Pump It Up DDRFreak gateway been around for a substantial amount of time? Nothing happens there, but that doesn't change the fact that it signifies an intention to cover PIU at some point. And nobody's cried foul about that offshoot of DDRFreak proper. =P None of the would-be complainers probably don't know about it.
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Thomas Hobbes · Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 4:05 pm Post subject:

I find this anti-ITG sentiment hilarious. ITG is essentially the same game as DDR. It's the same concept but sort of on crack. ITG is just the new mix of DDR, per se.
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Catastrophe · Trick Member Joined: 04 Mar 2002 Location: Worcester, MA

For the record, I'm all for DDRfreak covering as many dance games as they want to. I just strongly disagree with Daniel's opinion that this is necessary for the future of DDRfreak and for the genre in general. Just because Daniel is pro-ITG, and I don't agree with him, that doesn't mean that I'm anti-ITG. I'm not.

Dancing Dan · Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 7:52 pm Post subject:

Seeing as i know nothing about ITG this will probably be good for me to learn up on it.
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Rancidfish · Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 12:25 am Post subject:

LET ME SHOW YOU THEM · Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 7:11 am Post subject:

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The Game II · Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 11:11 am Post subject:

LET ME SHOW YOU THEM · Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 11:35 am Post subject:

I totally think that having DDR Freak cover In The Groove not only helps this site, but ITG Freak itself. With more coverage on the biggest* and most well known* bemani coverage site on the web, more people will become aware of ITG, and also there are plenty of people that cross post on both sites that can answer questions about In The Groove. If someone decides they don't want to bother with DDR coverage anymore, they can go over to ITG Freak and just post there. I'm sure RoXoR doesn't care either, the more publicity they get, the more people find out about their product, and the more units they can sell

*=semi educated guesses on my part.
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skie · Vivid Member Joined: 24 Jan 2002 Location: olr studios

Let's face it, despite how you may or may not feel about ITG, it's a smart business decision on behalf of the DDR Freak staff. Think about why there is a DDR Freak in the first place? A bunch of people who regularly play the arrow stomping game at their local golfland formed this community to talk about the game and schedule tournaments and meetups at the arcade. (It's a real drastic generalization, yes, but I think I'm on the right path here)

Unfortunatley, for whatever reason, if KCEJ is "starting over" with DDR, they are taking their sweet ass time doing it, as we haven't seen a new arcade DDR mix since Extreme in Christmas 2002. It's been all about the home versions now. But DDRFreak wasn't started for home versions.

So, now you have this new dancing game ITG, which is basically seizing this opportunity that Konami's absence is giving to step in and grab a share of the STILL thriving arcade dance game market that Konami's ignoring (one new UK mix aside). While it's split the community on several issues on everything from quality to difficulity to freestyleability to the ethicalness of the game even exisitng... it's out there love it or hate it. And as Extreme machines get more and more stale, these ITG replacements look more and more inviting. This is where the dance arcade market appears to be heading. So, DDRFreak, in my opinion, is simply adapting to these changes.

Calls that DDRFreak is trying to do some takeover of ITGFreak or something are absurd. DDRFreak has actually done quite the opposite in supporting similar websites in the past. You may recall that DDRSpot was a site that was thriving for a little while, that was run by some moderators on this board and advertised in signatures, for which there was never any reprocussion, as far as I'm aware. And as you may see in my own sig, I'm involved with a station called Orange Lounge Radio which was viewed by some as a "competing" station to DDRFreak Radio, but a recent content sharing partnership has hopefully shown that there's plenty of room to work together. But we at OLR are going to soon be adapting soon as well (not necessairly in this same manner). It's most unfortunate, but Arcade DDR's pulse is slowly fading... It's really unfortunate that there's such a great product out there in Ultramix 2 that could do so, so well in the arcade I think. I suppose there's a reservation out there as to-- are arcades viable enough in this day and age to support new dance games? I dunno, it seems to me that the success of ITG, like it or not, should answer that question..........
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FHOD DJ X!! · Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 12:37 pm Post subject:

Spike · Administrator Joined: 17 Jan 2002 Location: Denver

So Skie doesn't understand DDR...

Well you CLEARLY don't understand ITG then.

Also: one ! and ? are sufficient.
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Wakka Lakka · Trick Member Joined: 12 Mar 2005

As a noob I have to point out that this thread is going downhill fast. Perhaps I can play the court jester here. As I understand it, the reason there is no ITG machine in where I live is because an ITG machine starts out its life as a DDR machine and then becomes an ITG machine after some modification. I guess this just means I have to wait until the ITG peeps can make their own cabinet since arcade owners in my area can barely be prodded to buy a DDR machine in the first place. I love the songs on DDR but I must say that I own all three mixes for the PS2 and I would not be opposed to buying another game just for 1 or 2 new good songs. My suspicion is that KCET his holding back on songs like cartoon heros, bag, and PSMO so they can fire another salvo in the console war once Roxor and the PIU folks play their hand. Anyway my point is that the ITG vs DDR debate is a pointless waste of time because we (dance game fans)need them both. Any video game is just going to get old and played out and I for one hope that there are many new songs and new games to keep this style of gaming going for a long time...otherwise it will be back to playing mindless first person shooters and carppy MMP online epics.

Cutriss · Staff Member Joined: 24 Jan 2002