Pumpers converting to ITG

MiiChan · Trick Member Joined: 02 May 2005 Location: Tallahassee, FL

Wow. Wish I would of saw this before.

; Hope I don't get killed for rising a dead thread...

When it comes to singles, the ITG stepcharts look more insane then Pumps (Dignity, to me, looks easier then Pandy for the sheer fact you don't have the bpm changes and have several breaks before you start the insane stuff). I can pass stuff like Xtreme w/o the bar, but I need it for the second half of IGYAML and Monkey Fingers. (this is all for Crazy). I've only been playing ITG on my flux for two days now, and I can now start passing Torn, Queen of Light, and The Game on hard with 80%+ score...the transition is harder then I thought it was going to be.

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As for doubles, the ITG stepcharts look easy in comparisn to Pumps. I can pass most nightmare songs up to 14 w/o the bar (although some higher level ones I do bar rape) and up to 16 with the bar. Now, one thing that bothers me about the step charts for doubles in ITG is they're inconsistant with the single steps. Take Queen of Light expert vs Queen of Light Expert Double. The single uses insane amount of hands, then drops them all for the double play. I think it would have a lot of possiblities using tons of hands for double play. Most of Pump's nightmare songs are based on the crazy counterparts (although there are exceptions, like Join the Party, which would be hard to replicate via double). I noticed the inconsistanties is other songs like Xuxa, where the steps are lowered, the the jumps are raised considerably...it doesn't follow IMO. They all look interesting to try, but I wish they were more like single charts. I play crazy songs mainly to get ready to try the nightmare of most songs in Pump, so I would think it would be the same with other games, IMO.

If I ever get a chance to actually play ITG in the arcade, I'll need to try the double play, The steps look easy enough, but as I found from the single step's, it isn't as easy as it looks. I just hope the double premium is disabled (why is that option on in the first place? It doesn't seem right to pay double for using two pads, your still playing one song.)

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Kaku · Trick Member Joined: 22 Jan 2004 Location: Surrey, BC

MiiChan · Trick Member Joined: 02 May 2005 Location: Tallahassee, FL

Kaku · Trick Member Joined: 22 Jan 2004 Location: Surrey, BC

The machine I play is set to Instant Fail by the way, so I can't simply play the song and pass because of a score either >< Need to keep my life up the whole time.

cj iwakura · Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 9:20 pm Post subject:

That's part of my increased difficulty with ITG; every song requires me to push myself to keep alive throughout the whole thing. Pump, I'm used to just going for a good passing cumulative at the end. (Which is why I can A almost everything I pass; Exceed's really lenient that way. [Unless of course you just barely survive.])

My closest to Dignity CZ is 135 misses, and I know 10 less or so and that's a pass. No way would that get me anything short of a big fat F on the DDR or ITG scale. I really suck at navigating death runs on four/eight panel, too. (I wore myself out doing Hillbilly Hardcore on Expert; but I can do the death runs on Sajahu and Final Audition 3 CZ/NM in my sleep.)
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DAF · Trick Member Joined: 20 Feb 2005 Location: In CP

Could someone please post vids of these 19-20 foot PIU songs? I would like to see them. The highest i've seen was some 16 footer which looked challenging, only because being an avid ddr/itg player i can't decipher the 5 arrow setup too quickly.
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MiiChan · Trick Member Joined: 02 May 2005 Location: Tallahassee, FL

http://www.pumpcore.com/videos/

Suggested downloads (for nightmare) :
CanonD
Beat of the War
FAE1
Will O Wisp

Check out Hot also on nightmare. While it's pretty easy, it shows that you can slide threes with ease (although I go with hands for half of them in that song).

MiiChan · Trick Member Joined: 02 May 2005 Location: Tallahassee, FL

It's YouSendIt, so get it while it's hot. ^^ For anyone who wants to see a PIU NM 22 passed with an A, no bar, download this.

Canon D Nightmare (no bar)
http://s41.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0KJT48STMMA4J26DJ7FA6N9OY0

I know this is the second time I resurcted the thread, but I remember some others posting that passing the higher level NMs wasn't possible without a bar, and I wanted to show it is. Any thoughts? Guy has some insane flat footing skills, plus balance and stamina like no one's business. @_@

ThemsAllTook · Trick Member Joined: 10 Jan 2005 Location: Virginia, USA

Good lord.

That makes stuff like Pandemonium expert look like the easiest thing in the world.

Why are none of these impossibly good Pump players also well-known ITG players?

cj iwakura · Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 11:38 am Post subject:

I asked an insanely skilled friend of mine from Mexico that very same thing once. His response was that four arrow's too easy.
A lot of them just don't like playing that format, either. It's probably also because the areas where the best players are from usually don't even have DDRs or ITGs. (Pump dominates South America by a huge margin; probably why Andamiro has multiple headquarters down there.)
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