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[DarkCore]

[dzero48]

Soapy Bubble isn't that stamina draining to be honest. It just has alot of awkward crossovers. If you suck at crossovers, you'll have a hard time with the song. Liquid moon isn't even close though to the difficulty of soapy bubble, which could pass off as an 11 in most cases.

Anyway.

From most difficult, to easiest in my opinion.

Hardcore Symphony: Should definately be a 12. It has everything a 12 qualifies for. Long streams, many jumps, crossovers, everything. It is harder than some 12s, and gets really tiring toward the end.

Monolith: A major stamina kill. It's very fast speed makes the candle steps, and cross overs a killer. The hands are also annoying, but are easy to cheat. The step chart itself is an 11, but the speed makes it as I said more stamina draining than some of the 12s, and quite difficult to get a worthy score on it.

Pandemonium Hard: A load of everything, with a fast speed. A stamina killer. But if your good with streams, and have stamina, this shouldn't be a problem.

!-BANG!!!!!!!!!- MY favorite 11. It has a little bit of everything, and is quite a stamina drainer. It basically is a test in my opinion. The crossovers are very technical, and require a lot of practice to nail just right. The hands are very easy to cheat, but why would you in this song. At the speed of 155, it is not to fast, but the crossovers are difficult due to the speed. Once you get to the rolls in the middle(watch out for the mines which are placed exactly under the rolls), the song is a cake walk. The only part that sucks is that its very hard to get a good score on.

The Beginning- Crossovers. EVERYWHERE!!!!!!!. The good thing about this song is that it is slow, so the crossovers are dueable even if you suck at crossovers. The only real hard part of this song is the long crossovery "death stream". Once you play it enough times, this song is simple.

Mythology: Who possessed them to make this a 10 in itg1. This is basically a much easier version of the Beginning. It just has a lot of jumps in the middle that follow on beat exactly. Make sure youn save up your energy when doing the jumps so that you dont die at the end.

Destiny: FAST STREAMS THAT KILL YOU IF YOU ARENT PREPARED FOR THEM. Thats it. The only hard parts are the two streams. This is in my opinion the middle level 11.

July: It is a stamina drainer. The most stamina draining 11 in my opinion. The steps arentb that easy, but it has lengthy(not long) streams that feel like rushs due to its speed. It also has like 800 steps. This song will increase your stamina greatly, and will prepare you for the above 11's.

Utopia:It has long streams in the middle, but thats the only hard part of this song.

Infection: The mines and many steps make this song hard. It can be a real stamina kill toward the end, but keep going and you'll pass it.

Clockwork Genesis: Technically hard. Very very difficult to get a good score on. It tries to follow the beat exactly using holds and many jumps. Thats what makes it hard. Very offbeat after one stop, but then gets back on beat. You need to continuisly play this song to get good at it.

Xuxa: This song gives you a taste of streams, and they arent too long making it an easy 11.

Robotix: The steps are extremely easy. The only difficult part is the middle run that goes at an insanely fast beat. Play the song first on a C-MOD to learn the "crazy run". Can get a little crossovery at the end, but is simple.

Chalene: should be a 10, if it weren't for the mines, but this song is the simplest 11. It cant get any easier than this. [/b][/u]

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[DarkCore]

[Tyrgannus]

Yeah, all you have to do is step to the not perfectly synced L and R arrows when you can't rely on visual or audio help.

In other words, FFC that section almost never happens. That part is fairly hard to score due to the syncing AND because if you ever get off, there's almost no hope of getting back on.
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Summer is as much of a 12 as PSMO is a 9.

[DarkCore]

I got all fantastics during the 1337 BPM part once; it's not that hard, you just need to keep a good solid rhythm and ignore everything else.
However if you miss an arrow it's really hard to get the others. Even when I was just randomly stepping on the left and right arrows really quick, I still missed all of them.

[Jun]

[DarkCore]

[Tyrgannus]

That world championship video is one of the funniest things I ever saw. Seriously, treating ITG like a spectator sport, and having game announcers (Kyle and Chris), it was just too much for me.

I love that video =)
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AA Bob wrote:

Summer is as much of a 12 as PSMO is a 9.

[xcfrisco]

How can people say "if you have stamina, this song isn't hard"? I think for the majority of players out there, stamina is the hardest skill to obtain when playing dancing games. How does one not learn how to do crossovers when building the stamina required to pass a lot of the tiring 11's and 12's the game has to offer? Do these people just play Pandemonium(hard) over and over again, building stamina and not learning other techniques of the games? Boggles my mind, it does.

With that said, I passed four 12's (Vertex, !, Go 60 Go, and Tell) before I passed Pandy hard. Song is just so tiring. The Beginning and especially Mythology seems really easy after playing songs like Rhythm and Police and HVAM for 4 years.

I guess we just all have different learning curves.

[Da-Risin-Smoke]

Robotix isn't very tiring (for me), Yeah, like you said, that 1337 part.

If not, you'll get that loser's combo.
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[davidyko]

[Mischevious Almo]

Heres my favorite/least favorite 11's.

Favorite:
Utopia-song pattern is neat and easy to pass.
Charlene-Least hardest song in ITG and easy to pass.
Robotix-speeds up to 1200bpm and sounds great.

Least Favorite:
Vertex^2-Song has lots of unique things, but very difficult.
Infection-I really don't know why I dont like this 1.
Mythology-In vthe very ending there are tons of arrows poppin up, thats why most of your stamina is dranied (near the end).


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[davidyko]

Well, I suppose since someone bumped this, I'll update my thoughts on this matter:

ITG PS2 11s in no particular order:

The Beginning - Contrary to its title, this is the one 11 (if I had to choose one) that you should not attempt first. Quite a nasty piece of work (seven-note 16th bursts throughout), and if you can't do crossovers, you're on your own at the end.

Mythology - Easy until (unless you can't jump, that is), well, the last 20 seconds of the song, where, again, if you can't do crossovers, you're screwed.

Pandy Hard - Technically not very hard...but at 320 BPM, it drains your stamina...fast. Watch out for the run in the middle, and save your energy by not stomping as hard as you can in the beginning.

Infection - If you're not completely disoriented by mines, you should be fine if you're trying just to pass it. If you're trying to score well on it, it's quite a bit harder with 200+ mines.

July - Nothing especially hard or strange in this, 16th note bursts throughout, triplets in the middle, if you follow the music, you'll be fine. Some of the runs are a bit awkward (for me), but nothing onerous, I assure you.

Charlene - Piece of cake if you can dodge mines at all.

Utopia - Only hard part is the "death run" in the middle, which hardly qualifies as one. Oh, and the part with right-arrow syndrome might be a bit confusing the first time you play it.

Xuxa - If you survived the Utopia run, and have played Xuxa Hard once, you're good to go. Just follow the music.
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