DDR boss song rating

[AA Bob]

I think Simo's right, DarkCore - don't underestimate it. I don't think it's a 13, but my guess is that you'll have more trouble passing it than you think.
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Emptyeye wrote:

So um, is it bad that awhile ago I was watching Family Guy, and when Quagmire came on, I thought something to the effect of "Whoa, It's AA Bob!" (I don't remember if the exact thought was "It's AA Bob" or "It's AA Bob's avatar", but I don't think it matters in this case)?

[flcl573]

[RBCF retunes]

I never said Sakura should be a 10, I was just pointing out how ridiculous it is to consider it an 8.
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[0rion]

[Asymptote]

[RBCF retunes]

Sakura is much more of a 9 than Orion.78 AMeuro-mix. The latter has quite a few sixteenths and jumps that make it a 9, but is quite a bit slower than the former (300-320 vs. 210).
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[Lobster Jesus]

Every 10 footer in DDR (Song: DDR rating/ITG rating):

bag: 10/9

Sakura: 10/9

PS: 10/10

PSM: 10/10

PSMO: 10/11

PARANOiA Respect: 10/11 (Weak 11, but still 11 worthy)

MAX 300: 10/10

MAXX Unlimited: 10/10

LoM: 10/10

MAX.(period): 10/11

MAX.(period) Oni: 10/10

MAX 300 SMMM: 10/10

MAX 300 SMMMO: 10/11

FAXX: 10/11

FAXXO: 10/11

FELM: 10/10

FELMO: 10/12

Chaos: 10/9

Chaos Oni: 10/10

HDV: 10/9

HDVO: 10/11 (Sorry but one crossover section doesn't automatically warrant 12 material contrary to popular belief :/)

Mad Blast: 10/9

Outer Limits (UM version): 10/9

Outer Limits (Festival version): 10/10

Trim: 10/11

Insaner (LED's Punishment Mix): 10/11

Xepher: 10/9


I think I got every 10 :X.
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[0rion]

[Asymptote]

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[DarkCore]

Except every single thing in HDVO up until the end is incredibly easy and not the least bit stamina-draining. Then the end comes, and sure it's fast, but it's easily BS'able since it's so short. Hell no this is not a 12.

Determinator on the other hand is faster than HDVO's ending during the middle run, and is alot harder to pass. Plus, there are 32nd patterns throughout the whole song rather than just at one part.

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[N00b_Saib0t]

[DarkCore]

[Lobster Jesus]

[N00b_Saib0t]

[AA Bob]

I'm going to agree with Asymptote here. HDVO deserves to be a 12.

I'd say the slow part by itself is a medium to hard 9. The second section of the fast part (after the jumps) is at least a mid 11. It has fast, repeated bursts of 16ths (yes, I know they're technically 8ths) complete with candle steps. The third section with all the crossovers is definitely 12-worthy. Crossing over repeatedly requires a lot of movement, and you have very little time to do it. There is nothing unusual about rating a song by the difficulty of its hardest section. Determinator would likely be an 11 without the middle run (the other runs are mostly short and easy, and barely require any movement). There's pretty much no question that Mythology would be a 10 without the long end runs, and I think the same could be argued for The Beginning. Solina would be an 8 without the candlestep-filled 16th streams in the middle (if Roxor allowed Expert charts to be rated 8s, that is). Similarly, HDVO would probably be an 11 without the crossover part. We're talking about passing difficulty, and that one part is enough to make the song a lot harder to pass. HDVO builds in difficulty throughout. This means that the song drains your stamina more and more as it progresses, and the hardest part of all is basically right at the end when you're most tired.

Oh, and I have a feeling that some of you in this thread have not actually attempted to play the songs you're arguing about. You're not going to get a completely accurate idea of what a song is like until you try it (and preferrably, play it several times). You should at least be able to get most of the way through the song before you can form an opinion that reflects reality. I don't want to sound like an elitist, but if you have trouble with 10s, you're not really going to have any idea what HDVO is like compared to other 12s. And playing it with your fingers absolutely does not count. Most things that are very difficult on foot are really easy on a keyboard (HDVO's crossover run, for example). So to everyone here: if you're talking about a song you haven't played, a song you've played mostly on a keyboard, or a song you aren't even close to passing...stop.

[Lobster Jesus]

[N00b_Saib0t]

the arcade steps are different, or the arcade pads are different? i've only ever played HDVo on my home pad, and i dont have access to an arcade version at all.

as for HDVo slowly draining your stamina, maybe i just have better stamina, but i dissagree. that song wasnt tiring at all up to that point. IMO, the slow part of the song is rather fun(which isnt to say its not difficult) with the gallops and skips and jumps accenting the music, and even on X1.5 the fast part isnt too fast to be comfortable reading. the jumps arent long enough to be tiring, and they dont even mix them up with skips a la mythology to add some difficulty. the ONLY hard part of HDVo is that small run. HDVo is a hard song, i'm not trying to discredit its difficulty at all, i just dont feel its 12 worthy. its up there with the hardest of the hard 11s and maybe a small fraction more, but it just lacks that certian ZOMG that the 12s have.