Shortcomings of ITG for PS2

[HumanBeing]

Haha.

Just a few more replies and pretty much everything I stated was verified, albeit without the ones actually verifying realizing they were doing so.

Yep, so it's pretty obvious some of you can't stand to have any flaw pointed out. It's also pretty obvious some of you can't tell the difference between a legitimate complaint and a bash, pretty much the definition of a fanboy.

You love your game. I get that. Now get this. Not everyone thinks it's perfect. Maybe I wanted to voice that? I'm not exactly a hater.

Want an example for DDR? Okay, I'll give one. It would be better if up/down selected the song and left/right selected difficulty. Almost any new player will try those at first before figuring out that up/down changes difficulty (usually with a double-press) and left/right changes selected song. I can't blame ITG for that because it basically copied DDR, and so it was pretty well established by that time. It is an example though. That is hardly a bash.

Do you people really take this stuff so personally? May I ask why? It's a game, folks, albeit a very fun one. You didn't make the game yourself and you didn't directly contribute to it (if any of you have, I directly apologize towards you, as that would make it a bit more personal).

It's the same with fanboys of anything. Take a musician for example. Say someone criticized some song for obviously being thrown together at the last minute, whereas other songs by that musician were pure awesomeness. The fanboys will then take it as a direct attack against themselves. I mean, is the only conversation possible "Yes, this game is absolutely 100% the best, agree?" "Oh yes, entirely. How about any others?" "Yeah, we all agree. Let's talk about how perfect it is some more!!!"

If any part of this is viewed as a flame it is only because it is being viewed through the eyes of a fanboy, which means he/she can't really tell the difference between a legitimate complaint and a bash anyway.

So, maybe some of what I said isn't a big deal to some of you. In that case, the fanboy comment is not directed towards you, as you are not taking this personally. If it is a big deal, get over it. It's a game!

Maybe things that bother me about it don't bother other people. That's cool. Maybe other people have things that bother them about the game but which don't bother me. That's also cool. That's more the line I was going with this thread. I wanted to see what problems others had with it and see if they were the same or if they had different ones. Instead I stumbled onto fanboy territory.

Seriously, don't take this stuff too seriously. :-P
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[Tranzworld]

[VivaLaMoochicken]

This thread is epic fail. HumanBeing is a moron and a DDR fanboy.

Who gives a fuck about console games anyways though? Most people that purely play home version are gigantic noobs anyway, especially when they complain about how they want to play but can't adjust because they're too lazy. Plus, home version doesn't really help your timing anyways. No one complains about the many flaws in the DDR games, so why complain about ITG and it's flaws?

Edit: Also, you can't personally know what a fanboy is HumanBeing because a lot of people that play ITG still respect DDR before SuperNOVA. A lot of people personally love Extreme and would consider you to be a flaming homosexual with AIDS from screwing around with too many kittens and midgets.
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[Tranzworld]

Requesting lock again. This discussion was over back at Blakes post.
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EvilDave219 wrote:

This topic is made of win. And by win I mean fail.

Best. Quote. Ever.

[Agent]

This is extremely humorous, calling me an ITG fanboy when I have stated in other threads that I have always preferred DDR. I much prefer the music choice and style that DDR presents, I simply prefer the interface of ITG because it's easier to play with. And the load times suck, but they don't come into play when I'm using an ITG theme in Stepmania.

[HumanBeing]

Oookay. Yes. Let's get über pissed-off now, people.

1: Anyone who honestly doesn't care isn't a fanboy. That only leaves the people who do care.
2: Anyone who does care but who realizes flaws and/or doesn't let criticism get to him/her personally isn't a fanboy. That only leaves the fanboys.

It shouldn't matter if the criticism is valid or not, you shouldn't let it get to you personally. What one person thinks is valid another thinks is not. Either way, sheesh.

Tranzworld, calm down buddy. The world doesn't end because someone doesn't agree with you. It angers you enough to make threats to shoot people? Take some medication please, or get some medication subscribed for you. Such violence isn't within the normal range. See a doctor.

This all is really quite hillarious though.

Apparently I'm an "idiot" because I mention some things which some of you don't agree with. Also, apparently I'm a DDR fanboy because I called some of you ITG fanboys. Nevermind the fact that I treat DDR as a game and am willing to hear complaints about the game.

A fanboy is a fan who goes beyond fandom, by the way. It is someone who completely idolizes their chosen object beyond any reasonable measure so much so that any perceived "attacks" against that object result in perceived actual attacks against said individual. I am definitely seeing that here, and it isn't coming from me.

Apparently some of you would rather argue about this and get all pissed off about it than to simply agree or disagree or provide your own views about the game.

Maybe this should be locked, but only so it doesn't bother you fanboys any more than it already has. I really do pity you. I pity that you can't tell the difference between a bash and a genuine criticism, even one you may not agree with. I pity that you take anything against this game as a personal attack against yourself. I really do.

That really wasn't the purpose of this thread which seems to be spiralling in that direction.

Hate me if you want but just remember who that hurts the most, and it isn't me, I guarantee that much. And I will say it again: You can't let yourself be too personally worked up by this stuff. Just relax.

And you'll know if this wasn't directed towards you. Basically if you didn't freak out it wasn't directed towards you.
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[Devon]

hey HumanBeing, how about you shut the fuck up and stop overusing the term fanboy. Jesus christ are you annoying.

[Ashes2Ashes]

We're not letting it get to us personally, we're just laughing at you and pointing out things in your post that aren't true (i.e. Overhead isn't perfectly straight on).

Okay so maybe some of the people who posted may have seemed a little fanboyish, but you weren't being much better in your first post where you were being so nitpicky about stupid things. It was like you were trying to find something wrong with the game.

Also this isn't about agreeing or disagreeing, since were talking about "facts" here, mostly (again, the Overhead example)
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[HumanBeing]

Ashes2Ashes, no, I don't believe you posted until just now. Nothing in your post is fanboyish, so I believe that part doesn't apply to you.

If you're having fun laughing at what I wrote, carry on then.
If you're having fun laughing at me, carry on then.
If it brightens your day, glad to be of service.

Ditto to any others who fall in a similar role.
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[Charlie Likes Cake]

Calling me a fanboy is so dumb. The only reason I said who cares is because....Who cares. All of these " flaws" have been pointed out already. And do you even know what a fanboy is?
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[GotACoolName]

[El Band Geek]

this is almost as bad as crunchwrap's "I Hate ITG" thread from awhile back
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[hello]

Sigh. This thread is simple. HumanBeing pointed out some things he felt like were flaws of ITG PS2. Some were valid (load times, censoring), some were not (overhead). A lot of it are technically valid complaints but don't really matter (only using x). Someone should have just confirmed the valid complaints and corrected the others. Thread over. Instead we get people dismissing every single one of his points, and then HumanBeing calling people fanboys and flame-baiting. Let's be civil guys.

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[Tranzworld]

Hey HumanBeing.

Do you know anything about my personal life? No. You dont. I had a bad night last night, what did i do? i took my anger out on here. Does that change my opinion about you? No. Should I care that i hate you? No.

You tell me to calm down and start posting like you know everything even though you obviously think i'm some emo suicidal kid who wants to go on a killing spree on columbine.

Also, you still call me a fanboy, which you STILL have no proof that I am. You say that a fanboy is someone who cares about a game? that means every game i play makes me a fanboy of that game. You have some flawed logic there. Really helps your case eh?

And seriously, stop with the flamebait. Accusing me of medical conditions? Yeah you really just piss me off more and more with every post I read of yours. Have you ever hung out with me in real life? No. Off of the internet, i'm very laid back, relaxed, and probably wouldn't hurt a fly. But your obvious accusation AND flamebait just add fuel to the fire. You really are the true meaning of "Elitist" as well. You treat everyone like their less intelligent than you are, and we are all just "fanboys" because you're egostical elitist mind cant comprehend the fact that there ARE people smart at you.

As far off topic as i've now gone and as much as i've flamed/flamebaited back i wouldn't be surprised to get a couple warning points, but at this point, i dont really care because these people like you deserve to be banned forever from forums because you have such elitist egotistical minds.
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EvilDave219 wrote:

This topic is made of win. And by win I mean fail.

Best. Quote. Ever.

[OLC.Kanji666]

i just rofled!


Everybody here is a fanboy (or girl) to some extent.....the fact that you post here is proof enough ... But that is irrelevant.

ITG is NOT a perfect game....Correct!

The many points and reasons put up at the start of the thread......Incorrect. A FEW of the points carried a LITTLE truth (slow load times being the most true), but some of it was kinda BS.....small text.....where? I have pretty bad vision, and i havn't had any problems. Arrows hard to read? How? They have color codes to make them EASIER to read! The whole arrows tilt forwards/backwards thing? Overhead man.....Small Stepzones? Are you on Mini or something? Changed/censored songs......if you havn't heard the song before, you wouldn't know they were changed.....

And complaining that you can only use "X" to select, and not the "O" button.....seriously.....LAZY.....


ITG is a great overall game, and the "shortcomings" are really too insignificant to take away from the game. There was no point in the complaints in the first place. Essentially this thread has no purpose...

I vote for lock too....i guess....

EDIT: lol, i just realized i basically expanded what "Hello" said .

ROFL!

[Devon]

helloooooo hellooooo helloooooo

is there anybody innnnnnnn there?

just nod if you can here meeeeeeeeee

is there anyone homeeeeeeeeee?

[Soul of Ignorance]

Guys, stop arguing, stop talking about it. Its done. Most of us are all arcade players and have no need to entertain this topic for any longer than we (myself included) already have.

Tranzworld, calm down, pimpin. Its not that serious. And while your list of accolades is impressive, you're jumping way off topic and getting into a tangent that you didn't need to get into, thereby flamebaiting yourself.

HumanBeing, you're right, you have more than enough right to point out what you feel are flaws, as this community has more than enough right to disagree with what you feel are flaws. That doesn't make them fanboys. That makes them people with different perspectives. Also, please stop flamebaiting. This thread, in its entirety, was a complete flamebait and I think you're intelligent enough to know that.

And correct, this was done the moment Blake posted.

Second request for a lock, please.
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[davidyko]

Epic phffail.
Seriously, who cares. If I want to play ITG, I will play ITG, slow load times be damned. None of these flaws are big enough to make any impact on me.
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