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0. PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 6:03 am    Post subject: The 'Home Pad vs. Arcade Pad' thread Reply with quote

Howdy all. I recently went to my local arcade to find a shiny new DDR Supernova machine. It didn't even have high scores on it laugh.gif I got the record on Doll. Anyway I noticed that despite it's cherry status, the sensitivity of the pad was vastly inferior to my home pad which happens to be a Blueshark GXG. Do new arcade pads need worn in before they work properly - I mean I really had to stomp to FC stuff (but I did FC stuff). Could a home pad really be more sensitive than arcade?
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1. PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It took a short time for the new SuperNOVA here to get the pads broken in, and I hear it's a common issue... but when comparing home and arcade pads, it depends on the design. I have been able to get my homepad to be more sensitive than the arcade, which allows my little sister to finally hold freeze arrows.
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2. PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried playing a spankin' new pad and I found I had to apply a lot more pressure than just having my foot on the panel. I then tried an older machine and I was etting perfects out of the wazoo. So yeah, the Supernova pads needs to be broken in.

As for the Home Pad vs. Arcade Pad, depends on what you're saying. Blueshark/Homebrew pads might be better than just broken in pads, and soft pads are worse than new arcade pads.

Or at least that's how I feel.
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3. PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yea, They need to be broken in. I played on a spankin' new DDR machine, I mean, THEY JUST SET IT UP, and I got perfects when I really stomped on the pads.
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4. PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, when I first got to play on a brand new machine, I was pretty disapointed.
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5. PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have no idea why people think arcade pads are as sensitive as home pads. every single home pad i have played on is definitely more sensitive than any arcade ddr pad i've played on by far. sure, arcade pads are more durable, constructed better, last longer, and are just overall better pads, but home pads will always have better sensitivity, though. even soft pads and tx's.
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6. PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From worst to best; pads I've played on:

Konami Softpad (2005)
Konami Softpad (2005)
DDR USA AC (both sides)
PIU AC
tx1000
DT600 Prototype
Cobalt Flux (x2)
PIU AC
DDR SuperNOVA AC
tx1000
DDR Extreme AC (both sides)
Konami Softpad (2003)
PIU AC (both sides)
DDR Extreme AC (both sides)
DDR Extreme AC (both sides)
in the groove 2 AC (both sides)
PIU Pro AC (both sides)
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7. PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rush12 wrote:
Stuff.


As much as I might disagree with some of your discussion tactics outside this thread, I'm really on with that.

This really isn't up for a whole lot of meaningful discussion. Arcade pads and home pads are apples and oranges; comparing them is moot. [4chan references = no] Arcade pads are giant lunkering beasts made for semi-public use, while home pads are made for personal use.
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8. PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All home pads are more sensitive than arcade pads (unless the home pad is broken.)
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9. PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marq(uistadorous) wrote:
All home pads are more sensitive than arcade pads (unless the home pad is broken.)
I seriously hope you're joking.
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SoymilkCharlie wrote:
Marq(uistadorous) wrote:
All home pads are more sensitive than arcade pads (unless the home pad is broken.)
I seriously hope you're joking.


Dude, tell me a homepad that is less sensitive than an arcade pad when the homepad is working properly. I know I can't think of one
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11. PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marq(uistadorous) wrote:
SoymilkCharlie wrote:
Marq(uistadorous) wrote:
All home pads are more sensitive than arcade pads (unless the home pad is broken.)
I seriously hope you're joking.


Dude, tell me a homepad that is less sensitive than an arcade pad when the homepad is working properly. I know I can't think of one
See my list. All the home pads except the Cobalt Fluxes on that were brand new. An arcade sensor inside a properly maintained pad is extremely sensitive. At one of the arcades I go to frequently, they have 3-year-old sensors in their machine, but they've done some basic modifications on the P2 side to make it so that they're still sensitive to even the lightest taps, even fingers.

I'm not sure why they didn't do the same for the P1 side though. I got a couople dropped freezes on that one.
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Marq(uistadorous) wrote:
All home pads are more sensitive than arcade pads (unless the home pad is broken.)


Yeah, that's true. On soft pads I can hold freeze arrows with just my big toe. At the arcade, I have to exert a good amount of pressure to do that. Even broken in arcade pads are like that. I like that about them though. My PA/FA is better when I stomp and hear my feet go with the rhythm.
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13. PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Again, I played on a brand new softpad back in November. (a pair actually)
One ghost-stepped like hell, the other required my entire foot to be on the arrow to register a step. I guess you could say they were "broken", but I say they were made poorly. They were no more broken than an arcade sensor that takes more than .5lbs of force to register is broken.
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Again, I played on a brand new softpad back in November. (a pair actually)
One ghost-stepped like hell, the other required my entire foot to be on the arrow to register a step. I guess you could say they were "broken", but I say they were made poorly. They were no more broken than an arcade sensor that takes more than .5lbs of force to register is broken.


you said it ghost stepped. That just means it's TOO sensitive. and the other sensor was just messed up, it didn't have to do with the sensitivity. And yes, the arcades SENSORS are very sensitive, but the pad design for the arcade makes the whole thing not very sensitive. And that one arcade pad you were talking about is weird. I've never played on a ddr or itg machine that was too sensitive, but that's just me E1.gif
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Just because you've never played on an arcade pad that wasn't broken doesn't mean they don't exist. There was nothing wrong with the arcade pad. It was just modified so that each panel had a small amount of pressure already applied to it, so that you only had to put a small amount of pressure on it. It wasn't "too sensitive". It didn't ghost step like a soft pad or a Cobalt Flux.

And saying that a softpad's perfectly sensitive unless it's broken is like saying "it's sunny out, except for when it isn't".
Unfortunately, softpads often come broken right out of the box, and if not, they often get that way within a couple months of heavy use, even modded ones. Arcade pads last through years upon years of intense stress, and are very easy to fix because of their stable, controlled structure.
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SoymilkCharlie wrote:
Just because you've never played on an arcade pad that wasn't broken doesn't mean they don't exist. There was nothing wrong with the arcade pad. It was just modified so that each panel had a small amount of pressure already applied to it, so that you only had to put a small amount of pressure on it. It wasn't "too sensitive".


What?! Alright I have played on many perfectly maintained arcade pads, both itg and ddr. And I'm not saying anything was wrong with that arcade pad, I'm just saying it was changed to be more sensitive, as you just confirmed. And I didn't say the arcade pad was too sensitive, I said the homepad you were talking about was when you said it was ghoststepping.

SoymilkCharlie wrote:
It didn't ghost step like a soft pad or a Cobalt Flux.


You just proved my main point due to the fact that ghost stepping means it's too sensitive. Remember I said all homepads are more sensitive, which is not necessarily good

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And saying that a softpad's perfectly sensitive unless it's broken is like saying "it's sunny out, except for when it isn't".
Unfortunately, softpads often come broken right out of the box, and if not, they often get that way within a couple months of heavy use, even modded ones. Arcade pads last through years upon years of intense stress, and are very easy to fix because of their stable, controlled structure.


OK. I DID NOT SAY SOFTPADS OR HOMEPADS ARE "PERFECTLY" SENSITIVE. I SAID THEY ARE MORE SENSITIVE, which can be bad.

now let's stop fighting E1.gif
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17. PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, its actually starting to piss me off to how ignorant soymilkcharlie is being. you must be borderline retarded to actually think arcade pads are more sensitive than home pads. i mean, with the posts you are making, i doubt you actually even know what "sensitivity" even means.
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Sorry charlie, but I have to agree. A soft pad can register a step by poking it with your pinky. I've played on a pump zero that was in excellent condition and pump pads supposedly have the best sensors, but it's still not as sensitive as a konami soft pad.
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19. PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

soft pads can register a step really easily, but then an arcade pad can too.

the problem is you cant really compare the two, because they are made *completely* different (as most of you better know).

i mean, pressing down some cheap foam is obviously going to be easier than an arcade sensor.
i have played on a few different arcade machines, including ITG, pump, supernova, extreme, and 4th mix, and all of the pads were different.
some of them had extremely sensitive pads.

also, i have to partially agree with charlie here:
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Just because you've never played on an arcade pad that wasn't broken doesn't mean they don't exist. There was nothing wrong with the arcade pad. It was just modified so that each panel had a small amount of pressure already applied to it, so that you only had to put a small amount of pressure on it. It wasn't "too sensitive". It didn't ghost step like a soft pad or a Cobalt Flux.

as i said above, one of them actually was able to register by "poking it with your pinky" as UltraRobotsGo! said (well, it was my index finger, but same effect)

it was EXTREMELY sensitive, and a very good pad to play on, especially since i am so light
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